The "Saints" are not Seventh-day Adventists

By Dirk Anderson, June, 2012

In a vision Ellen White saw on October 23, 1850, she explains who the "saints" are:

Book, Medallion Presented to Pope
Review, August 11, 1977
"In connection with a recent consultative meeting of secretaries of World Confessional Families held in Rome, B. B. Beach, secretary of the Northern Europe-West Africa Division, one of the 15 partic­ipants and the only Adventist in the group, presented a book and a medallion to Pope Paul VI on May 18.

"The book presented was the Adventist missionary book Faith in Action, and the me­dallion was a gold-covered symbol of the Seventh Adventist Church. The me­dallion is an engraved witness to the Adventist faith in Christ as Creator, Redeemer, and soon-coming Lord, in the cross and Bible, and in the lasting validity of the Ten Commandments. While the other commandments are represented simply as Roman numerals, the words of the fourth—'Remember the sab­bath day, to keep it holy'—­are written out."

I saw that the nominal churches and nominal Adventists, like Judas, would betray us to the Catholics, to obtain their influence to come against the saints. The saints will be an obscure people, but little known to the Catholics, but the church and nominal Adventists will know of our faith and customs, and will betray the saints and report them to the Catholics as those who disregard the institution of the pope—that is, they keep the Sabbath and disregard Sunday.1

This vision proves the Seventh-day Adventists are not "the saints" that will be persecuted during the end times. Instead, Ellen White says that the saints will be "an obscure people" or relatively unknown to the Catholics.

SDA Church Well-Known to Catholicism

Pope received medallion from SDA leader Today, the SDA sect cannot possibly be described as an "obscure people" to the Catholic Church. The Seventh-day Adventist Church has been well-known to the Catholic Church for a long time. By the late 1800s, Seventh-day Adventists were already being mentioned in Catholic publications.2 At that time, the SDA Church was staunchly anti-Catholic in their rhetoric, but they softened in the late 1900s. In 1977, Religious Liberty Director Bert Beach (pictured on left) strengthened ties between the two hierarchical churches by presenting a golden friendship medallion to the Pope (see news report in the Review on the right).

Through continuing dialogue and participation in ecumenical meetings, the relationship between the Papacy and the SDA Church has continued to grow even stronger over recent decades.

SDA Pastor presents proclamation to Pope In January, 1999, at an ecumenical meeting in St. Louis, Missouri (USA), a local newspaper reported:

"The pope continued the theme of unity at his final ceremony Wednesday evening at the Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis, where representatives of many faiths - Judaism, Hinduism, Seventh-day Adventists - joined him in prayer."3

At that meeting, pastor B.T. Rice of the Northside SDA Church (pictured on the right) presented a proclamation and a banner to the Pope entitled "Faith Beyond Walls" promoting the newfound unity between the two churches. Exemplifying the close bond between Seventh-day Adventism and the Papacy, Pastor Rice spoke to the congregation, addressing the Pope with the reverent title, "Pope, your Holiness."4

SDA Religious Liberty Leader with Pope Frances In 2000, after 15 years of "dialogue aimed at better understanding of the teachings and practice of the Catholic and the Adventist Churches," the SDA Church signed a "pact" with the Papacy in Warsaw, Poland.5 Apparently the SDA Church is not very "obscure" to the Catholic Church, having spent 15 years in "dialogue aimed at better understanding."

In 2002, "Bert Beach of the Seventh-Day Adventists" was invited to attend a Vatican "inter-religious observance" at Assisi.6 On October 12, 2016, SDA Religious Liberty leader Ganoune Diop attended an ecumenical meeting at the Vatican where he met Pope Frances (as pictured on the left).7 Rather than being "obscure" to the Catholics, the Seventh-day Adventists are active partners with Rome in promoting the goals of ecumenical unity.

SDA Corporation is in business with Roman Catholicism

In 1995, PorterCare Adventist Health System of Colorado, USA, entered into a “partnership” with the Roman Catholic Sisters of Charity Health Services. The Merger was publicized in the Catholic Newspaper Our Sunday Visitor.8

SDA Church not an "obscure" sect

The SDA sect is anything but obscure to the Catholics. In 2020, it boasted a membership of 21,760,076 adherents. At that time it was actively working in 212 nations.9 Adventist adherents outnumber Catholics in at least five of those nations.10 Adventists claim their healthcare system is "the largest not-for-profit Protestant healthcare provider" in the United States.11 Seventh-day Adventists also have the "largest Protestant Christian school system in the world" with "a total of 6,709 educational institutions operating in over 100 countries around the world with over 1.2 million students worldwide."12

Today, Seventh-day Adventism is well-known through-out Christianity for its eccentric teachings, its claim of exclusive ownership of "the truth," and its agressive proselytizing of other Christians. To illustrate how well they are known to Catholics, the Catholic Church's web site publishes more than a dozen articles challenging what they describe as the "strange ideas" of Seventh-day Adventism.13 Seventh-day Adventism and its "strange ideas" are very well-known to Catholics.


In a vision, Ellen White said the "saints" who would be persecuted for their beliefs in the Sabbath were "obscure" to the Catholics. If one accepts this as a true vision from a true prophet, then one must also concede that Seventh-day Adventists are not "the saints." It is, in fact, impossible for them to be "the saints" because they are by no means "obscure" to Catholicism. The SDA sect is well known to Catholicism and to the Pope. The two organizations dialogue together, work on ecumenical goals together, exchange gifts with each other, and even do healthcare business together.

Either Ellen White's vision was a falsehood, or else "the saints" are not Seventh-day Adventists. You decide.


1. Ellen White, Manuscript 15, 1850. See also: Spalding and Magan Collection, p. 1.

2. See for example, The Catholic World, vol. LXI, April-September 1895, p. 250.

3. The Dayton Daily News, Jan. 28, 1999.

4. The speech of Pastor Rice is as follows: "Pope, Your Holiness, your historic visit to St. Louis, Missouri, has served as a 'catalyst' in the creation of this program and it transforms your presence into a lasting legacy to our region. Today, we present to you this proclamation, announcing the creation of 'Faith beyond Walls'. Your commitment to improve interfaith relation has fostered the environment where in the spirit of collecting faith, positively action can be tried. In addiction, we also present you this banner, the emblem of 'Faith beyond Walls'. We hope and pray that it will inspire interfaith communities around the world for focus their efforts on improving health and the quality of life. Again, we welcome you to our region." The video of this event was found at: as of 11/30/2023.

5. "Adventists and Papacy Sign Pact", Adventist News Network, Feb 15, 2000.

6. CW News Daily News Brief, Jan. 17, 2002,

7. L’Osservatore Roman, October, 2016,

8. Our Sunday Visitor, p. 1, Jan. 7, 1996.

9., as of September 30, 2020.

10. Antigua and Barbuda, SDA=12.3%, Catholic 10.4%. Jamaica, SDA=10.8%, Catholic 2.6%. Pitcairn Islands, SDA=100%. (Source: Anguilla, SDA=6.7%, Catholic=3%. Montserrat, SDA=8.33%, Catholic=8.33% (Source: "Religions by country", CIA World Factbooks, 18 December 2003 to 28 March 2011.

11. "About Us",, extracted June 6, 2012.

12. Wikipedia, "Christian School",, extracted May 11, 2020.

13. See

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